She would also get child support but its based on income and its possible, only possible, she was making more than he was. Shanann was married to a man named Leonard Kim and they got divorced in 2009. NEVER. That summer, Chris had gone from a loving husband to a cheater to a killer. But what made it so difficult to interrupt the happy family fairy tale? This is a lot of the same behavior patterns people go through when they get abortions. lts only one way emotions and feelings. Her first marriage lasted approximately the same amount of time. His belief was; if I dont make the decision, I wont ever be wrong. He pleaded guilty that November to all three slayings. Photo: Facebook, Netflix Have you forgotten what he did to her and his own children? Maybe she liked him supporting her, but they were going to run out of money again. The streaming platform recently released the documentary American Murder: . Shanann Watts appeared to be fighting for her marriage up until she was murdered by her husband Chris Watts.. Just a couple of weeks after the first trailer for American Murder: The Family Next . Coverts are nominally closet bi-sexuals. Why was their marriage not going well? Thank you Dr. Van De Leek for your enlightament, You have even managed to make it readable and easy to read. Then he meets Nichol, and he does what she tells him to do. If so, nice of him not to say so. Later, Chris confessed to murdering Shanann and his daughters. I never thought of Shanann possibly using these happy family videos with Chris before her death as a ploy to hang on to him or keep him from leaving. Why does everyone on this thread seem so willing to badmouth a victim none of you have met? She ruled EVERY aspect of their lives and he complied with it all. Shanann Watts' First Marriage The opening 10 minutes of American Murder features social media footage of Shanann explaining her life story. Shanann Watts is pictured with her husband, Christopher, and their two daughters, Celeste and Bella. Shanann was absolutely obsessed with money and the finer things in life. She started working as a human resource specialist at Childrens Hospital Colorado Anschutz Medical Campus, Aurora in 2013. By clicking Accept All Cookies, you agree to the storing of cookies on your device to enhance site navigation, analyze site usage, and assist in our marketing efforts. I think she realized especially during her stay in NC that there was something very wrong and the change was likely permanent. He was interviewed by many news channels where he pleaded for the return of his family. A more assertive divorce narrative [to Kessinger]. They met when she was in high school and he was in law school. You have some real writing talent. Just Published! He pleaded guilty on November 9, and his death penalty was not put forward on Shananns familys request as a part of the plea deal. Chilling photos show stained clothes Shanann Watts was wearing when she was murdered and buried in shallow grave by husband The clothing did not match what Shanann Watts was wearing in. I just thank God he took the right Murder is a way to save the family from the hardships, etc. The reasons that many commit such brutal crimes can be caused by issues such as: a breakdown of the family relationship (this was present in the Watts case) as well as tentative, past and current issues with access and parenting of the children; money issues (they also had a bit of financial hardships), possible mental illness is another reason. May be she aspired to live a little beyond their means but she didnt kill anyone not does that make her evil. Well, she shouldnt have . He then loaded his daughters into his truck along with their mother's body. I went out looking for as much information as I could, I watched a YT video from Something Criminal, S02/E02 and it narrates a good spin on the argument that CW was also creating an alternative version of his relationship with SW to his friends and family as it benefited him. I . Shanann was too busy with her work, if you can call it that, juggling a mountain of debt, and living the high life that Chris Watts checked out of the marriage. For some reason she couldnt fathom him cheating and posting stupid shit constantly about her wonderful life that was only in her head. During the investigation, Shananns purse containing her phone and keys, her car in the garage, and her wedding ring on the couples bed were found. You spoil us with love an attention! Chris had his $5 million bails revoked after this and was remanded to custody immediately. Yes, too little to late on her end. Shanann Watts was visiting her parents with her two daughters in the area for a summer vacation in the weeks leading up to her murder. Separation comes up 38 times in the discovery, and 8 times [separate or separating] in the CBI Report. This may sound strange but he could have done it to have them be with her in death. Then you file bankruptcy and the moving truck comes and takes all the beautiful stuff you recently purchased along with your new SUV. she captioned. Hes the best dad us girls could ask for., Need help? But nonetheless I still feel Chris killed the children. She was making it very difficult for him to go through with a divorce. To her he was in the midst of a divorce, and by the time of the murders the divorce was being finalized, and so was the sale of the house. He committed to committing some of the worst offenses and then proceeded to act like it was no big deal. Shanann Watts/Netflix/2020. Shanann was born to Frank Rzucek and Sandra Rzucek. Is Shanann the only girlfriend he ever had? On August 21, Chris was charged with five counts of first-degree murder, an additional one count per child cited as death of a child who had not yet attained 12 years of age and the defendant was in a position of trust, three counts of tampering with a deceased human body, and unlawful termination of a pregnancy. But I work my ass off in a cold office every day to pay for it. In a fit of rage, Chris strangulated Shanann and took the three dead bodies to a remote oil-storage site, Anadarko Petroleum, where he was employed before. The Colorado woman's husband, Chris - a normally loving affectionate man - had become cold and distant. I agree with your points. There are family annihilation cases each year ~ but I heard that this one took the prize in victim blaming. On June 11 . ! she texted, adding, He said we are not compatible anymore! They were a family. Like a mercy killing. The fact that Shanann was talking to a divorce lawyer about custody in April, three-and-a-half months before the murders, suggests there was a protracted period of unhappiness, and acknowledgement from both sides that things were falling apart. Now the Lupus posts begin. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. He knew his new woman wasnt going to stand for him shelling out half his income in child support, no way. My former brother in law once told me that he let his wife make most of their decisions. Youre right, Emma, about there being a lack of grief. , but law enforcement has not publicly confirmed it. But you can see a pattern here, with Shanann Pouring herself into work and not being interested in any of the things he was up to. Yes, she did want to have the good things in life. Strangely he could not give the exact date or year they got married. Shanann Watts reached out to a friend and shared her growing concerns about her marriage but she never suspected her life was in danger. That was the plan. I read a study on LIVID COERCIVE killers who are motivated by anger and rageshowing control issues (recent) and may have abusive tendencies and have issues achieving their self-worth and authority within the home. Our love just grows strong everyday!". I think ur right with all this. I think if you go back and look at the Thrive video output it might correlate with when Chris began cheating posting a profile on Tinder and hooking up with Amanda McMahon either Feb. or March 2018. Chris boss spoke very highly of him in the first phone interview with the CBI. In an interview with a local news station on Tuesday, Christopher said he and his wife had an emotional conversation before her disappearance, and he pleaded for her and the kids to come home. He was charged with five counts . That is where the Psychology comes into questionForensically/Criminally, Behaviorally and otherwise. People with less than 2 brain cells should not be allowed to comment on public posts. How old was he? Similar to C&S relationship. Shananns behavior is not odd at all, in fact, its pretty much how people act when they no longer want to be with you. In 2010, she met Chriss Lee Watts, who was an employee of the Anadarko Petroleum, Woodlands, Texas. He wasnt emasculated by her, thats who he was before she came along. At some point she was finished with the relationship and iced him out. Chris was released with pending legal proceedings after he posted $750,000 on December 1. This was supposed to trigger the annihilation that followed. Married 5 years and 9 months. He seems to have a minimal social life as well. He also said so, and others said so too. That is never a good sign. Nothing out of the box. So all around, it would have been a lose-lose. People are not born Coverts Narcissist, they become and it stems from bad parenting. To me he comes off douche-y, fake and spineless (I agree with Previous Poster)I dont think he has much of an identity for himself and lives much too much in his mind. He seemed very distracted and disengaged. He has Taylor, "I am here for you and whatever you need. Watts had two daughters with her husband, named Bella and Celeste. Interesting none-the-less. unless you was there, and Im sure you wasnt. The film features the story of the case and stars Sean Kleier and Ashley Williams as Chris Watts and Shanann Watts, respectively. Meanwhile, Chris began his affair with Nichol Kessinger, a woman he worked with, telling her he was separated. They were Watts way of communicating to Kessinger what he just couldnt do with Shanann. The baby was a way of Chris Watts wanting sex so instead of just asking for sex he says why dont we try for another child. Chris Watts killed his pregnant wife Shanann and their two daughters three years ago, a still-shocking crime that shattered those who thought they knew the picture-perfect young family. Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - (Speaking about their relationship) - YouTube 0:00 / 7:24 #ShanannWatts #ChrisWatts Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - (Speaking about. Daughter of Frank Rzucek and Sandra Rzucek. But I could be wrong. IDK just my two-centsit is hard to see in most families b/c not many of us post so openly about our daily lives. I dont know who he is, she texted a friend on Aug. 7, 2018. Odd that when her marriage to King ran into trouble her behavior exactly mirrored that of Chris in the months before the murders: Not waning to engage in conversation, shutting down, withdrawing, physically distancing herself within the home, etc. Thats so sad. thats all she cared about period. It's no mystery, the Watts marriage was in trouble long before Shan'ann received that critical credit card alert on Saturday night, proving Watts wasn't at the Rockies Games, and suggesting he wasn't eating alone. She did cheat with the dirty south guy. Im sure he brought up divorce many times, her Im not so sure. If that were true I dont think he would have killed them as well. Meanwhile Chris was looking for someone else, he was just sick of her and all her BS. Required fields are marked *. For those who may be experiencing intimate partner violence from an abuser and were not certain that is the case here they are able to fit into a societal norm, the perfect family.. But it is frustrating watching people who live 1000 times above their means and then expect everybody else to forgive their debts through bankruptcy. Where does the need to reinforce someones mistake come from? He went from being a loving husband excited to welcome a new baby to his family to a man cheating on his wife to a man who murdered his wife and daughters and dumped them in an oil field. Wake up to the day's most important news. Hearing their parents noises, Bella came in and Chris told her that her mother was sick. I like nice things and having nice experiences. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. THIS IS TOTAL LEFT FIELD.. I know an ex wife who was getting very greedy and sued for more and lost because her ex could show he had no income by getting his employer to pay him in cash and lived on credit cards for a while. In the U.S., call 1-800-799-SAFE (7233) for the National Domestic Violence Hotline. That is a comment that should never have been said; parenthood is exhausting and social media never forgives human missteps. If she hated him so much, why didnt she leave him? We dont know whether there had been violence during their marriage, but it would not be surprising that Shanann tried to project a positive image to her friends and colleagues, both on and off of social media.. I am so very sorry all of this happened but perhaps it gives pause for thought when making decisions. Ruth Glenn, president of the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, said social media allows for individuals to project a moment in time, versus the realities of their lives. We may never know, but amateur sleuths may want to look at a timeline of their marriage for clues. Then he killed his daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3 at his job site on an oil field. One of the jobs typically associated with psychopaths are salespeople. More info here: https://crimerocket2.com/2020/10/08/frank-rzuceks-letter-to-detective-baumhover-on-his-observations-of-chris-watts-deteriorating-relationship-with-bella-and-ceecee/, Your email address will not be published. He already secured the oil field site so that no one else would be there when he disposed of the bodies. Thats bad enough in private, in a marriage, imagine what it feels like to see that on social media from your partner. He has changed. In 2015, Shanann and Chris Watts filed for bankruptcy, listing their liabilities at $400,000. True Crime Analysis, Breakthroughs, Insights & Discussions Hosted by Bestselling Author Nick van der Leek. Another type of family killer to look at would be DISAPPOINTED KILLERS or people who believe they have been let down by those around themmostly their partner and children. Two days later, a body believed to be Shananns was found on property owned by Christophers employer, Anadarko Petroleum. OK honey. Quiet people may appear calm but Chris was not quiet inside. Perpetrators may control their victims using sexual, emotional, verbal, psychological, financial or digital abuse. Shanann Watts and her younger brother, Frankie Rzucek, were raised in Aberdeen, N.C. Chris Watts is also from North Carolina, and he married Shanann Watts in the state back in 2010. ET. To me inside he was a volcano just waiting to erupt. Hes the best dad us girls could ask for.. She would have received spousal support but there is a time limit on that. So maybe he was just as obsessed with money as she was. Janny Free please dont call them little monsters they died but the hand of their father, and Bella was such a sweet little girl, and CeCe was younger she was still in toddler stageShe was gonna grow out of itNo matter what happened between these adults they didnt deserve to die, and neither did Shanann RIP Shanann and your 3 Angels Bella Celeste Nico , Janny didnt call them little monsters she was repeating what Shanann called them in one of her videos . It is/was a gut feeling that we all get, a sinking feeling that cant be explained or described but his withdrawal was a big clue that she should have put more stock in. Being open and honest is the best way to prosper individually and as a couple. He refused to hug me after he said he will try to work it out! They were spending more money than what was coming in and trying to live a wealthy life they could not afford. When Watts visited the Hair Jazz salon in Aberdeen where Sandi Rzucek worked, it was clear to the hairdressers [Sandis co-workers] that Watts wasnt happy, and Sandi actually told them then [in early August 2018] that the marriage wasnt working, and that the couple were separating. In a new documentary from Netflix, newly revealed letters and texts show that Shanann had no idea that her marriage would soon turn deadly. It seemed like Shannon dictated everything with the kids and he just followed orders. They may feel emasculated and when the marriage begins to fail, they lose control and parts of their own identitythis kind of melds into the CIVIL REPUTABLE killer when it comes to identity and it appears both CW and SW had their complete lives wrapped up in their family. She states that she felt "very insecure" during her first marriage, and goes on to discuss how bad experiences transformed her into a self-motivated woman who built her own home by age 25. She worked at the hospital till 2016, and then, joined as an independent representative for Le-vel, a company that markets Thrive health and wellness products. Later, Chris took Shananns body into the back of his work truck and also took his two daughters to the oil-storage site, where he first buried Shanann and then strangled both his daughters with a blanket and disposed of them in the oil tanks. You dont consider others at all, nor think about others' feelings.. Chris, we are so incredibly blessed to have you! she wrote. Hes passive, a yes man, doesnt want confrontation. Admittedly, Chris Watts wasn't looking all that great, already. Thanks Holly, for spending some time thinking and sharing your thoughts on these questions. He was an average student, pretty smart. The 34-year-old mother regularly posted updates on social media about her life in Frederick, Colorado, documenting her rise in the health and wellness world and gushing about her picturesque family. He smothered his daughters to death, buried his wife in a shallow grave, dumped his daughters' bodies in an oil tank, then he went to work as if nothing happened. Think before you speak. I believe he didnt divorce her earlier because he needed to find someone else to take her place. There is never a good enough reason to do what he did. Cheryln Cadle, a married grandmother of 12, recalled her correspondence with Chris Watts in "Cellmate Secrets," a true-crime docuseries on Lifetime narrated by Angie Harmon. Can you imagine her as a single parent? I couldnt imagine a better man for us. The case became one of the most publicized murders in American history. In November 19, 2018, Chris Watts received three consecutive life sentences for the August 2018 deaths of his pregnant wife, Shanann Watts, and their daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. And if her controlling nature was no big deal then it would have been no big deal. On Monday, Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant, was reported missing along with her two daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. This is not necessarily true, but it could be true. She was brought up in the Moore County of North Carolina. In his own words: In his own words: August 13th, morning of, I went to the girls' room first, before Shanann and . Youre right about him being spineless, but hes not completely spineless. After the film was released, Shananns family condemned the film and said that the filmmakers were only making money off the case. She could barely handle the 2 monsters she had, another on the way, and Chris did a lot around the house to help out with the girls, meanwhile she had them in school that cost them 2K per month. You dont just go out and buy thousands of dollars worth of shit just before filing bankruptcy and expect to keep it. Hammering away relentlessly. On August 16, the authorities discovered Shananns body buried in a shallow grave nearby, and the childrens bodies were found hidden in the oil tanks. IMO they were talking divorce/separation for quite some time, possibly a year. We also know that in the weeks prior Shanann was setting her husband up in her Thrive spiels as a great father and perfect husband and the best thing that has ever happened to her. By Adam Carlson Published on December 7, 2018 10:00 AM Shanann Watts' parents knew her marriage was having problems and that her husband of nearly six years, Chris Watts, had grown distant. The grass always looks greener when you are looking at a fantasy. I would love to see a list that leads to Premeditated Murder. Reportedly, the documentary consists of the archival footage of the case with no narration or enactment; it also includes social media posts, law enforcement recordings, text messages, and home videos. Coupled with his need to be dependent, the savior/hero and narcissistic (tendencies); he realized he was outmatched and probably felt claustrophobic, trapped, etc. If you look at photos of their dining room before the bankruptcy you can see a beautiful black dining set with side board and Im not talking cheap stuff here as I would say the set was a minimum of $5-7000. She was desperate when she realized he was done. It probably doesnt matter to those people that Shanann was controlling, and you raise a good point, did she internalize everything and wonder what she was doing wrong? He considered his family an albatross around his neck and divorce was never an option for him after the pregnancy was announced. ; she had already spent several *5* or so weeks without him before and that was the unfortunate reasoning for the freedom to start his affair with NK. And I say this as a woman you can be controlling and its something Im always working on. Chris Watts was charged with the murders of Shanann and their daughters Bella and Celeste on Aug. 21, 2018. Based on her Facebook page, Shanann Watts had it all: a satisfying career that allowed her to travel, two gorgeous little girls, a doting husband and a new baby on the way. Remains believed to belong to their two children were. But nonetheless I still feel Chris killed the children. Why is it assumed that Shannan is controlling and that Chris hated it? She noted that most murders of American women are committed by intimate partners, not strangers. You are also agreeing to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. Shanann knew for months their marriage was in deep deep trouble but she also thought the 3rd pregnancy was a binder to keep Chris in her control. If she was (if she was making $80K a year) she would have to end up paying him child support. Shanann Watts was born on Tuesday, January 10, 1984 (age 34 years at the time of death), in Passaic County, New Jersey, United States, as Shanann Cathryn Rzucek. She died on August 13, 2018 in Frederick, Colorado, USA. Thank you so much for providing all of the analyzation and conclusion because it defines this case as it was and is. I knew Chris as a middle schooler and high schooler, he went to school with my kids. Study up! Yet experts in domestic violence say its impossible to know what happens behind closed doors, and social media accounts can act as a tool to hide turmoil in the home. $150,000 equity would have been swallowed up by realtor fees leaving the two of them not much. All of this would allow him to pacify her as well as himself and buy him some more time. I cant come back like this. Granted, this is much, much worse than that, but there may be a clue to the criminal psychology in the family dynamics. The pair began dating and married in 2012, with Shanann quickly settling into what seemed to be her dream roles of wife and mother. I need you to meet me halfway. Days before she was murdered by her husband, 34-year-old Shanann Watts reached out to a friend and shared her growing concerns about her marriage -- but she never suspected she was in danger.. I think Nick Der Leek does an outstanding job because he cleverly reviewed the case in its entirety and was able to provide spot on the mental makeup of both Chris and Shannan beginning with being unequally yoked. American Murder provides insight into Shanann & Chris's marriage, as well as their struggles with communication & parenting. I guess what I cant get my mind around is how he moved from wanting out to strangling those little girls and his wife. But wasnt he eligible for the GI Bill hmmmmm? Its absolutely ludicrous and I cant wrap my mind around it. I dont know if Shanann could have acclamated herself to a different lifestyle, honestly I guess well never know. So they had been together only 8 years and 3 day at the time on that fatal morning. Shanann and her unborn child were found in a shallow grave near the oil tanks where Watts dumped his children. Grief is written on your face for the rest of your life. I love Chris! she wrote. I have been there but sometimes you have to get a reality check. Yeah, she was a real gem. That does not make me controlling or him emasculated. Many commenters expressed shock that a father who, by online accounts, appeared to love his family so much could brutally take their lives, as police have alleged. Need help? Well, it may be because Shanann didnt want to, and thought she could sort of control Watts into not going through with it. You spoil us with love an attention! I hate to sound victim blaming and this is in no way an excuse for her husband to murder her and the children for gods sake!! August 22, 2018 / 3:26 PM / CBS Colorado. Family (1) Trivia (5) Older sister of Frankie Rzucek. Her friend tried to soothe her, to no avail. The doc also discusses Shannan's . Spot on I thinksort of sums up the sad complication of life.she was no doubt wanting to do the very best for her family, hence her ambition which could be viewed as obsession. Even though the family had issues before their tragic endthey filed for bankruptcy in 2015 friends and neighbors called them the "perfect" family,per The Coloradan. It doesnt matter what her past mistakes may or may not have been. The following day, the Colorado Bureau of Investigation and the FBI joined the investigation. She had a brother named Frankie Rzucek. She started seeing signs long before he killed them even confiding in a friend I dont think hes cheating on me as he has no game! And so I agree with you Holly that five week taste of freedom sealed the deal, and he couldnt go back to business as usual. At present, the house is valued $583,500 (as of 2020). He comes across as predatory and basic. Chris Watts: Complete Cast of Characters | True Crime Rocket Science / #tcrs. Chris Watts and Shanann Rzucek met in 2010. In the U.S., call 1-800-799-SAFE (7233) for the. I think I am starting to understand both sides of the fence which may have been prompted by the newly released Netflix Documentary or it may be because this case always sucked me in. Chris had already killed Shanann, four-year-old Bella and three-year-old Celeste on Monday, August 13. At all. According to their bankruptcy documents, they made a combined $100,000 and had a mortgage payment of $3,000 per month on their $400,000 home. Once there, he smothered the girls and dumped the bodies of all three. The Watts family eventually settled in Frederick, Colorado in a five-bedroom home they bought in 2013. I remember she mentioned in her video discussing this time period she portrayed herself as a hard worker that put him through school. That router article is amazing work Nick! Three weeks before a friend reported Shanann missing on Aug. 13, leading to the discovery that her and the girls had been murdered, Shanann texted her husband on July 24, writing, "l realized. Chris was moved to an out-of-station location due to security concerns on December 3, 2018; he arrived at the maximum-security prison called Dodge Correctional Institution, Waupun, Wisconsin on December 5, 2018. Shanann Watts Chris Watts familyhttps://www.facebook.com/ShanannWatts/photosCredit: Shanann Watts/Facebook, Chris Wattsdivorcehair jazzSeparationTimeline. Heartbreaking evidence photos and video of stained shirt, underwear and bra Shanann Watts was wearing when her husband murdered her, wrapped her in a sheet and put her in shallow grave The. You seem to like the psychopath label. Part of HuffPost Crime. Chris Watts of 'American Murder' is getting love letters in prisonand he's responding to them It was evident in the film that Shanann enjoyed documenting her day-to-day activities for her Facebook followers posting life updates, uploading candid bonding moments with the family, and sharing news about her work. Shananns job and income depended on selling the idea of Thriving. I felt all along there was apparently a rush by the prosecution to get this case brought to closure while ignoring various aspects that to me were very important. So I do wonder did Shanann ever really acknowledge why Chris may have been unhappy? Shanann Watts Brother Always Worried About Her and the Girls But Couldnt Protect Them, Days Before Murder, Chris Watts' Wife Shanann Was Worried: 'What If He Really Doesn't Love Me Anymore? https://shakedowntitle.com/2018/09/30/dirty-south-customs-shananns-dirty-little-secret/. Shan'ann posted videos onto social media promoting selling Le-Vel's wellness supplement Thrive. On to your other pointsyes and no to CW being spinelesswhile he was having an affair AND it gave him his first taste of new freedom and excitement that would have quickly worn off once there wasnt a secret to keep/hide. After all, it's not hard to see why people thought that. They were also due in court just weeks after the murders because their homeowner's association sued. I get really frustrated with people who peddle multi level marketing crap and expect their friends and family to subsidize their lifestyle through buying crap they dont want. 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